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9. How It All Starts: Find Out How We Use Karpman’s Drama Triangle: The Rescuer, The Punisher, the Victim, In Our Relationships.

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Blog 9. How It All Starts: Find Out How We Use Karpman’s Drama Triangle: The Rescuer, The Punisher, the Victim, In Our Relationships.

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As we grow up we often learn to play emotional games without thinking what the result or consequences might be. Later, when we’re adults, these games seem normal to us, they’ve become learnt habits, and we never question why we’re acting this way.

Because they’ve become learnt habits, we behave in ways that seem okay to us without wondering what we’re actually doing.

The most popular emotional game I am referring to is one that, if not fully grasped, can get in the way of your understanding of how relationships work and the roles you may either choose or be forced to play: how people behave or act in relationships, business or any given circumstances: what roles you take on as a result: how people may expect you to behave and how you react to those expectations. Remembering of course that emotional games can be either conscious or unconscious.

The game I am specifically referring to is Stephen Karpman’s Drama Triangle that describes a model of human interaction. I saw this model acted out many times while seeing my clients. The model described is what for explanation purposes I refer to as the Triangular System – The Rescuer, Victim and Punisher/Persecutor/Bully:

It’s a type of emotional game or dance that is played out by at least 2 people, moving around the triangle, switching roles, either becoming the rescuer or the victim. Eventually this leads to either of the parties, usually the rescuer, taking on the role of the punisher/persecutor. This can happen within seconds, minutes days or over long periods of time.

Here is a diagram to illustrate this idea:



The Rescuer:

The rescuer is not a person helping someone in an emergency. It is someone who enjoys the feeling of being a kind of saviour. A rescuer is someone who will always be there to help out. They are the advisors and they are the capable managers. They get up and go. They rescue. They save the day. They often offer help and assistance sometimes to their own detriment. Although rescuing someone might make them feel good at a deeper level, they can also play upon the victim in order to continue getting their payoff. And the most important payoff is the feeling of being needed and wanted. Except that the reality of this payoff is often a way of distracting themselves from what they should or could be doing. Each role played in this triangular system is played out because it’s a way of avoiding looking at anxiety and underlying feelings. It’s a way of focusing not on the self but on others.

However, to be a rescuer a victim is required. And depending on the situation these two roles can be interchanged. And so the triangular system gets set up:

The Victim:

A victim is someone who has learnt to become ‘incapable and unable’. They are the ones who can’t manage, don’t do and won’t do. They find excuses  – they never seem to have enough money, enough time and so on. Often they are ill and vulnerable. They complain that things are always too hard. They love drama and the attention that creates. This too is a way of avoiding looking at anxiety and underlying feelings and taking responsibility for themselves or situations.

So they require someone who does ‘do’ – a rescuer. Someone to take the supposed burden away from them. Or they look for situations so as to ignore what needs dealing with. It’s easier this way, so why not.

The Punisher/Persecutor:

However as I wrote in my previous Blog, if either party is forced to continually play the rescuer or victim roles eventually this can cause resentment. At some point, either parties will at some stage get annoyed. And normally it’s the rescuer that gets annoyed first. Although the rescuer might feel wonderful at being a saviour, at some point they’ll feel they’ve been taken for granted.

And feeling unappreciated, the rescuer switches roles and becomes the victim. The original victim then has the choice of either rescuing the situation or becoming the persecutor of what was the original rescuer.

This is when either the situation is somehow resolved. However usually the outcome is one of suddenly anger and accusations of resentment ensue – and a fall out.

If the triangle system is not understood, this situation can be consistently re-created in different situations until once again there is a fall out.

Why this triangular system?

Often we are not aware of the subtle reasons for choosing the triangular system of behaviour:

By taking on the role of the victim, by being passive and expecting others to take responsibility, means that the rescuer will eventually get frustrated and irritated. If this is not addressed the rescuer could get angry thereby becoming the punisher.

Consequently, an eruption occurs and the relationship usually dissolves. So the end result of utilizing this system is negative. It results in both the rescuer and the victim falling out. On an unconscious level at least, the usage of this triangular system can be seen as a way of keeping intimacy at bay. As the collusion of the rescuer and victim deepens, and as they get closer, so too does the frustration leading to the eventual splitting of the relationship.

There is another payoff not spoken about in Stephen Karpman’s model but one I observed through seeing my clients.

I have and will blog about this many times to come: Due to the fact that we learn very early on that our mothers or indeed nobody for that matter cannot be there for us 24/7. Depending on the relationship we have with our parents and what happens as we grow up, intimacy can be difficult for some to achieve. If for whatever reason intimacy is feared and difficult for a person to achieve, we may tend to set up situations like the triangular system. This means that somewhere deep we know that the intimacy will end in tears and so we never really get too close or if we get to the point of being very close to someone  – guess what? The persecutor/punisher (in other words either the victim or the rescuer) will end the relationship. Consequently, a ‘long term for-life’ intimacy bond is unlikely to occur leaving both parties feeling bad even guilty about themselves or their behaviour.

The triangular system is therefore destructive – it does not lead to a long-term intimacy or a happy ending.

This system does not help to develop self-worth either. Rather it punishes. It ends in tears leaving a wake of abandonment, guilt, and anger and a victim asking, ‘What have I done to deserve this?’ Unfortunately, most victims don’t learn that their passivity and pushing responsibility onto others is one of the reasons they lose relationships.

On the other hand, the rescuer has no idea that playing mummy, taking on responsibility is also a way of controlling a situation which eventually will annoy the victim leading to a fall out. So this is why I mentioned the collusive aspect – the victim needing the rescuer and visa versa.

In my previous blog I wrote about putting people on pedestals. The concept also relates to the triangular system:

When the victim declares, ‘I’m just not like you, I can never be as good as you”. This puts one person down while elevating another, the rescuer.  This is what also leads to irritation and resentment. It’s annoying to constantly hear someone putting themselves down because it means you have to constantly elevate them. It forces the rescuer to take responsibility for both parties.

On another level, the victims often say things about themselves without realising that they are so obviously looking for praise. This can become hard work for the rescuer and again – irritating and it can result in the end of a relationship when friends become tired of doing the propping up.

In other words, becoming aware of the triangular system and the role you might be playing is the beginning of your understanding of how you relate. Understanding that you may be setting yourself up for failure because the triangular system usually ends in tears. And by becoming aware that playing out this triangular system is just a way of avoiding looking at anxiety and underlying feelings, as well as keeping intimacy at bay. Playing either the victim or rescuer reduces or elevates. It does not help your self-esteem either.

However, understanding how we develop, what our patterns of behaviour are, how we land up creating situations that become destructive, leaving us feelings abandoned and unhappy.

I always say you cannot just be happy, move on and forget your past without fully understanding yourself and your patterns of behaviour. It’s only once you have a fuller understanding, that you can begin to make different behavioural choices that suit your life’s goals.

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  • chelsea June 15, 2017 - 12:00 pm Reply

    great blog!

    • Deidré Wallace June 21, 2017 - 1:41 pm Reply

      Dear Chelsea

      Thank you for letting me know.

      Best Regards,

  • Julie Hay July 15, 2017 - 2:58 am Reply

    this describes my relationship with my son, which has just ‘ended in tears’, mine, threats, police, ‘no contact’, broken hearted, totally…….all my fault of course…….how is it that mothers are to blame for absolutely everything…..when does it ever end…..I guess when I’m dead and buried he’ll stand by my grave and rail against me….no, I’m not going to be buried, don’t believe in wasting precious land with graves, headstones, etc., am being cremated and having my ashes scattered over the ocean, my daughter has kindly agreed to do this., so I guess he’ll rail against me at my funeral then….oh, well, I won’t see or hear it as I’ll be unaware i.e. annihilated

    • Deidré Wallace August 15, 2017 - 3:58 pm Reply

      Dear Julie

      Thank you for taking the time to share your story. I urge you how ever to read Blog 29. Parents do the best they have for a child, and a child is only with their parents for about the first 20 years of their lives. Then it is up to a child to do the rest. Blaming a parent/s is futile. And it is such a waste of time. Children need to get on with their lives. This may include therapy and so on. But either way they need to stop blaming and you need to stop blaming yourself too.

      Every time you are made to feel guilty, remember that you are only human and human beings make mistakes. However it is up to each of us to learn from our mistakes, to dust ourselves off and carry on.

      So I wish you all of the best,

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